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« on: January 01, 2007, 03:54:32 pm »

 Okay fellow Crowley and NC fans, listen up! There is a nice lil' Nightmare Creatures project underway! And we need YOUR help!  Grin

 This project is called Nightmare Creatures: Timeless Darkness, and it is a huge effort in order to bring about yet another Nightmare Creatures experience to fans who miss the games, except this time...in a sprite-based RPG! I know it sounds a bit crazy, but I promise good things IF I get some help here. So, I ask that we create a little team here, of potential game makers and such... to help with our goal.

 The resources I'll be using stems from the popular game maker, RPG MAKER XP, as I have tons of resource opportunities for the game itself as compared to other venues. You can check out what RPG MAKER XP is BY VISITING HERE. It's basically a simple game creating tool that allows you to use custom made graphics, music, effects, and sounds, and possibly movies through programming and such to create a unique world. Please view the movie at the link to kinda see what all you can do with this thig: It's powerful, and though not the best thing out there, it will still be able to lay down an experience you'll never forget! But just having the program at my fingertips is not going to get the job done...

 What I hope to accomplish here is to enlist YOUR help...assigning different jobs and such to create this game. I have ALWAYS wanted to be an RPG designer...so if you are creative like me, here is your chance to get your feet wet in game design techniques and principals at it's basic form.

 The idea for Timeless Darkness is to go JUST a bit forward in time from when Herbert Wallace "defeated" Crowley... when all of London has indeed forgotten the dark era and has moved on, busily going about their lives. It was as if the mad scientist never existed...but we all know what is to happen next!  Grin Our main hero is a young woman by the name of Adell Voth, a plain, but sturdy lady who works as a waitress on her town block. Reserved and sophisticated, she is not in store for the horrific events about to take place around her. In her dreams she see's the face of a man... a man with raven hair and eyes gleaming with mischeif. Pulled towards finding out more about him, she becomes entangled in Crowley's web of morbid aspiration to control London.

 That's just the basics...it's up to us to go with it... I kinda didn't want to make the whole story, but rather wanted to get you guys in the mix to help out.

 JOBS AVAILABLE:

 Okay, a game team is made up of a few (or sometimes many) individuals who share the workload...you may be responsible for character design, or maybe the musical score, or sometimes you do a bit of both....

 In this case, I'll split the work depending on talents in certain areas, as well as resources for that talent. For example, I don't have a working music maker... so it would be best if I got someone to help make the various tunes you'll hear in-game. But you guys probably don't have RPG MAKER XP, which means I'll do all of the actual putting together and programming and such. It's all fair share... but I also want to give you guys some freedom in what you choose to contribute. i don't know all of your talents yet... I actually have a team of THREE over here living with me (including myself), so we can get huge chunks of it done.

 So, i'd like to know where you guys want to come in... but i will lay some of it down here just quickly. So far our most important jobs are:

*PROJECT OVERSEER- Which is me... I'll be checking on all of our updates, progress, and giving feedback and ideas. So I'm like top dog here, but I'm not too strict or anything, because I'm new at this also.  Cool

*STORYBOARDING- I feel it would be best if we all posted ideas here and create the story as a team effort, instead of letting one person work on it. Storyboarding is getting a general idea for the story, then peicing it together with events and stuff throughout the game. Now, once we get events and a general game laid out, we'll need specific events to be drawn out and worked on, which will go to a person or two until it is perfected. For example, say we all collaborate and come up with all of these nightmarish events that lead up to Adell meeting Crowley - well the specific storyboarders will fine tune these events and draw them out scene by scene, working closely with the programmer and dialogue script writer.

*SCRIPTWRITER- Pretty self explanitory. This individual will craft the dialogue used in-game, working with the storyboard person to make sure the dialogue fits the scene and mood. They'll also work with the programmer to make sure the dialogue works out when placed in game, and help out there.

*MUSIC COMPOSER- Here is where I REALLY need help... I have no way of recording or making music tracks on my computer, though my brother is a very talented composer....we just don't have the means to. I have been ripping music from online, but I'll have to credit the composer in-game once it is completed. I'd rather have a music composer that works specifically for this game, so we can get music that better fits (because you're gonna have the game in mind when you actually write the music, duh  Tongue ). Right now I really REALLY am going for the ambient mood...dark gothic organ tones and strings and clashing chords.... but I'm really going to leave it up to the music composer. I'll give them the scene and they'll go with their feeling... or maybe they can get a general idea of the game and create music for me to place in appropriate spots. In any case, this job is really important and we desperately need someone to fill the position! So please....if you have any musical talent at all, give this a shot.
 RPG MAKER XP musics can be in a variety of files... I think MIDI or MP3 will work best.

*CHARACTER DESIGN- I really would love this position, both to make the sprites and the concept drawings, but I'll also be glad to work with someone else. We'll basically throw down ideas in this thread then all agree upon a specific character design and go from there. The person working in this will also make battle character graphics and monster designs, which I am happy woth doing lol

*SCENE DESIGN- Creates the main chip sets for use in-game, as well as battle backgrounds. I'm not too good at this, so I'd like to have someone help, ok? This is a MAJOR project for our game, as scenery creates the dark mood.... so please, somebody take this one.

 I'm gonna stop right there and let you guys discuss... So help out please. Throw down ideas and questions here.  Grin I'll update later on.
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2007, 08:22:17 pm »

 Awesome. I stumbled upon a gold mine of scripts to customize gameplay, graphics, and whatnot. It seems a horror elements game will work quite wellin the RPG MAKER XP setting. I came to this conclusion after viewing another survival horror RPG game that was custom made... it was quite nice looking IMO. So I dived into the little forum to see what I could make of the scripts and advice, since I'm almost new at script writing, though I have dabbled in it before. We should be able to pull off an RPG, given that people actually help out...it seems easy (RPG MAKER XP is a breeze to use most of the time...well, for me anyways  Tongue ).

 I've also found a face set maker, for those times when you have dialogue and want to put faces to the screen to match. I've been playing with that all day trying to match up some good faces for Adell Voth...mainly. lol Though I dunno how well Adam would work in the face set maker...it may be best to go to pixel art (which is what I'm used to) for the facial graphix, but trying a generator never hurt anyone.

 One of the best things I've found is the script which allows various battle systems, from tactics to ATB where the monsters actually play on agility and can attack you if you haven't chosen an action in time. Quite neat what you can do with a little bit of scriptwriting lol. I've also found scripts for creating AVIs to use within the XP game maker...which means it will allow me to make opening/ending 3-D sequences and cutscenes for use... but then again, I'd have to really crank down on Poser, which I've merely played around in so far, though I have begun working on a Crowley model (yes, my obssession...I know....). Anyways, if we are able to get AVI into the mix, we can do a short music vid scene for the beginning of the game (think about the Rob Zombie thing on Nightmare Creatures 2 lol)... all in all, things are looking sweet.

 But we need to get on development of ideas if we ever want to spit this one out...and make it nice. It certainly looks good on a resume if you can prove you dabbled in RPG MAKER  Cool and actually went somewhere with it.

 I already have a guy that says he'd be GLAD to be our game tester once we get further along in the project. I think key points here are to set some basic plot and events down, as well as get ideas for various characters we put in the game. Also, some discussion on music score would be very nice... and I have come up with the idea that I REALLY want a vocal piece in the game, maybe for that opening as I mentioned earlier...kinda like a main theme or such. Because I make music videos so often, it shouldn't be a problem exporting to AVI and throwing it down in the gameplay. But that's just wishful thinking... if others aren't interested, I may not go through the troubles....

 But yeah, let's start coming up with ideas and such...

RPG MAKER XP Forum with Scripts - check it out. It's got some GREAT scripts and also check out the games database...

 I'll have some music files to some MIDIs I found interesting so you can see what kind of music may be put in game. Anyways, throw me some ideas here!  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 08:59:58 pm »

 You know...we REALLY REALLY need a team name.... it would just sound more, I dunno....professional. lol So if you guys have any bright ideas, hit me with them.

 Also, as for music, I have some examples I pulled from offline from various artists...tell me what you guys think. We should make music similar to this, methinks. Kinda has a spoky, gothic feel....a bit of ambience...yeah...

 Through the Darkness - I like the ring of this song. It could make a very suitable title screen theme IMHO.

 Creepy,Rainy Night - I have been smitten with this tune since I first heard it. It has a nice, gothicy feel to it...I just love it to pieces. If someone could imitate this tune for use in my game, I'd be pne happy camper. I think it fits the Nightmare Creatures sereies very well, maybe for a street theme, or for an event of sorts.

 Wandering Souls - Very VERY similar to some of the level musics in NC... I like the dark mood here. It owuld fit nice for an event or a title/menu screen.

 Mad Tragedy - another tune I am obssessed with. This one is pure genius. Could be used for an event...I love the clashing notes here....

 However, because this is an RPG, there should also be some lighter moments, sad moments....other things besides horror, though it is a horror based game. Even Silent Hill has it's serene times and tunes. So here is a few besides the gothicy/horror elemental tunes...

 This is My Story - as the title suggests, maybe someone is telling their back story...something a little sad. Can be used for emotional points in a game. I feel this is totally usable even in a NC game, because it still has a melancholy ring to it. The choir effect is nice as well, so it still sounds sort of like it came from gothicy origins.

 Dream - Another serene tune, but it's with the organ. Could work very well within a NC game. I almost want to steal it and use it...

 Fights/Boss: Cause we're gonna have them, ya know...

 ]Final Boss - I LOVE this. I love organ-type tunes and whatnot for boss battles... I know in NC they used Heavy metal, and we may still lean towards that, but this one was too good to pass up...
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 What do you think of the music ideas? I need feedback...also, any idea for our lil' project, including storyline and events is greatly appreciated. We need to go somewhere with this...
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 02:19:08 am »

 My TO DO list and such for the NCTD project:

 *Hire someone, or convince my brother, to make the score to our game. I may play a hand in this as well...I love creating music. I'm thinking about pulling from different sources though...

 *Start up rough sketches and concepts of the characters,places,creatures we will see in-game. Will start shortly and HOPEFULLY (cross those fingers) get a scanner so you guys can see progress and help me choose.

 *Complete a model for Crowley in my Poser program for cinema and possibly for a fully 3-D animated opening to the game, and maybe some cutscenes....though for now, shooting for an opening is already a HUGE project.

 A few questions for you guys------

 Concerning Our Group Name:

1. Should it be dark and morbid or light and cheery or neautral? I'm thinking a darker name...but I wanted to get some input from you guys.

2. We need to make it so we can create a suitable Logo...or maybe an animation of sorts (since CreatureX seems to handle that sort of thing well.), so maybe a name that will fit an animated logo?
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 So, feedback? O.o
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007, 06:35:32 pm »

 Ok, so you guys are all out of creative juices too, huh?.... However, I played around with words and got a few suggestionsfor our team name.

 1. Omenious - play on the word Omen and Ominous. I thought it sounded cute, I dunno.... I'm not afraid to share my stupid suggestions LOL

 2. Blackblood - I liked this for some reason....I have no idea why, because it is very plain....I think it's because I have a cool logo in mind..... man, all of my suggestions sound evil....-_-

 3. Axexa - Nice ring to it....cool logo in mind. It's axe two times, but one of the words is flipped backwards LOL.

 4. Primary Sacrifice - evil...but kool........lol

 5. DeathArc - another cool but evil one....

 Yeaaahhhh.....running out of ideas here. Gimme some now, DANGIT. I'll have some of those logos I was talking about up laters. So you can see them...so you can give me input....
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2007, 12:16:05 pm »

 O.K, I'm actually going to start spriting the characters along with the monsters that you'll see in-game. Feel free to try and help me with anything, because I'll need all of the ideas and help I can get.  Grin I'll post something here when I make any sort of good progress. I think I have already found the style of characters I want to fit in my game anyways....
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 06:56:09 pm »

yay! I got feedback! Finally...lol  Grin We'll probably go with BlackBlood then.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2007, 08:43:21 pm »

Hmmm....here is initially how I would like Adell's clothing to look, but I'm thinking about trashingthe stockings and sandals. I want her in a nightie at  the beginning of the game, however, because she runs straight from her house in the middle of the night.

 

 I'm going to be working on her a little more later one, maybe get her walking patter completed with the clothes, but just wanting to know shoes/socks or no shoes/socks....what do you think? I oculd use some suggestions. lol

 By the way, the base isn't mine. I just did the clothing, because i was going to work from scratch but I <3 this base and intend on using it so....yeah...lol
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2007, 10:13:24 pm »

I just downloaded RPG Maker XP, So i will also start working on fig it out. That looks neat is the base from RPG Maker XP?

 No, the bases in the RPG XP (what it comes with) are much too small for this character, so I'll be working on doing a whole new tile set. This base came from an RPG XP site where developers share their works. This base was put up, so I decided to nab it and use it, because I fell in love with it (much better than making NC people look all chibi and anime lol). This is technically the style we will be using in game. I'll be working alongside another spriter to make the tile sets and other characters. For now I'm working on pumping out Adell and Crowley... I'm going to have to rework the figure into a male base though, because the person who posted this didn't have a male base for me to work with. But nevertheless, this is the general style I'm going with.... I may modify it just a tad bit though. I put it in-game and made her walk around and I love the walking action. It is very nice and moves smoothely  Grin I can't wait to actually start getting more of this game worked on....

 Any further ideas for the story/monsters/whatever?
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2007, 11:38:59 pm »

 Still looking for potential crew here now!  Tongue I'm still working on spriting Adell and whatnot...though I've been busy with catching up elsewhere besides this forum (I have many others to run, ya know  Grin ), but I'm still making some sorts of progress.

 We REALLY need to get members to put some individual input here. What would you guys like to see in the game? What types of monsters should we have? What will the cutscenes be like? Will the fighting style be freeroaming action, or strategic turn-based? What other characters would we like to see make an appearance in this game? What will be Crowley's ultimate plan? Should Crowley be the ultimate boss instead of hiding behind his creatures now? Should the music be dark and moody, or metal, or a bit of both?

 So many questions need to be answered! Since YOU GUYS are the fans, I want to please YOU! So I beg input, ideas, info, suggestions, comments, HELP in almost any area....we have tons of stuff for you to help out on, just check the first post! We REALLY need a storyline to be laid out, and individual plots that weave together into a huge main story.

 So throw your posts here! I need something to work with and I don't want to do it alone or I know I'll severely screw up!  Tongue
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